Call 1 · 14:00 UK
Andy Seaman and Ben Stammers
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The three-way owed since July. Ben introduced Andy in June, sat on the 17 Jul flight check, and on Tuesday said Andy is not proactive on the leads, sat on the Aviva risk and has no CRM. You told Ben in writing yesterday that you would come back this week with how you would set up the meeting-booking side. Commercials stayed off email, on purpose.
949
connection requests since 21 Jul, six campaigns ACTIVE
26%
accepted (248). UK C1 runs 38%, C2 and C3 about 21%
16+1
replies on the dashboard, plus one who messaged first. 5 classed interested, 2 unread
227
Singapore requests in 17 days, 1 scored reply, 1 unworked inbound
2,346
targets never touched. UK C1 has about 44 days of stock left
0
RMB records in the CRM. Signed PDFs sit only in Gmail
The two-minute version
- The line that shows you have been in the data every day: Since 20 July, five people got as far as interested. One sent you a Teams invite for the 14th, one asked for a call in mid September and is waiting on your invite, one asked what the platform is and has been quiet since the 10th, one handed you three job titles to go after inside a target firm, and one asked you two days ago to tell him more and hasn't been read. That is the whole return on 949 requests, and four of the five are waiting on a diary, not on a better message.
- The machine is healthy. The human layer is where the leads die. Andy does work the inbox: he answers in his own voice on every thread we read in full, booked one meeting himself, and pushed his own free-trial message into dozens of threads in one sitting on 1 Aug (about 54, from a last-message read). What he does not have is a system: no CRM, no diary of callbacks. Two campaign replies sit unread: the Singapore one (24 Aug, warm) and a 13 Aug hard no on our stats (no reply owed, but it is the study-line objection).
- Lead with the two unarguable ones, not with "you're not proactive". The Singapore contact who asked to be told more on 24 Aug, unread since. The Aviva compliance lead who sent a Teams invite for Fri 14 Aug 10:00, to which Andy said "Great, speak then", and nothing since. Ask straight: did the Aviva meeting happen? Names and the exact words are on the internal sheet.
- The ask to land: a meeting-booking desk so every reply is worked the same day and every warm thread has a next step. Costs are for you to settle later, not on the call, and nothing commercial goes in email afterwards. If he wants to keep writing every word himself: fine, then the desk is drafting and diary. A suggested reply in front of him inside the working day, he sends it or changes it, and we own the booking, the callback diary and the record.
- Two things to own up to, small and stale: the seat's cap was set to 200 requests a week from day one, not the "conservative 100" the launch email said, and it has averaged about 180; and Campaign 3 went live the same morning as 1 and 2.
- Do not name any vendor, quote any figure outside the signed brief, or name a client. Ben is Digica's champion but in this room he is Andy's introducer. Digica's commercials stay out.
The five threads to work, in order (who they are is on the internal sheet)
- Singapore, private-credit intelligence (SG C2). 24 Aug: asked outright to be told more about what we do. Unread. The Singapore test's only real bite. Andy answers him today: one sentence on what the platform does for a private-credit desk and one question back, no link.
- Aviva Investors, compliance lead (UK C3). 7 Aug happy to chat, 12 Aug sent a Teams invite for Friday 10am, Andy "Great, speak then." Silence since; the thread was re-read in full this morning and ends there. Two dozen or so other Aviva people are loaded across the UK campaigns and most have already had an invitation. If the Aviva conversation is live, ask Andy whether the remaining Aviva sends should hold until it lands (a gated write afterwards, not on the call).
- UK wealth consolidator, marketing director (UK C3). 19 Aug: a quick call, mid September. Andy: send a calendar invite. Ball with the prospect, no chase, six days. Does Andy send the invite, or do we.
- UK boutique, CEO (UK C2). 10 Aug: asked what the platform is. Andy replied with links on 10, 15 and 18 Aug. Silent since. A CEO who asked a buying question is a phone call, not a fourth link.
- Global asset manager, credit PM (UK C1). Not his role, and he named three buyer titles to go after instead. A routing map from inside a target account, never worked.
The portal's own five "interested" are the same four plus a founder who asked what we sell on 29 Jul and went quiet; the fifth above is on the list as a routing map, not as interest. Soft: a head of fixed income at a large manager said "I'll come back to you in September". Nobody has it diarised.
Run of the call
- Open on the numbers, one breath. Since 20 July: 949 requests out, 248 accepted, one in four. Sixteen replies on your dashboard and one more who messaged you first, so seventeen conversations, five of them warm. Singapore is 17 days in, accepts at the UK rate, one reply. Then the five-people line, then straight to the two unread ones.
- Aviva, 14 August: what happened. Then the Singapore reply: Andy answers him today. Then the mid-September call: does Andy send the invite, or do we.
- Put the desk on the table. Every reply answered the same day in Andy's voice, every warm one gets a next step in a diary, a Monday one-pager of where each conversation is, a CRM row per conversation (which also fixes attribution on the share). Copy fixes while we are in there: the brand confusion (Andy's own LinkedIn headline says EPIC Investment Partners, the sequence says Minerva and Athena, the links say x-trillion; a CEO stopped on 21 Aug to ask which it was; recommend one name on the seat, which one is Andy's call) and the "seven hours a week" study line a COO took apart on 13 Aug (retire it or re-source it).
- Ben's stake. Ask him, do not assume. Tuesday's transcript was garbled. If he names a number or a share you are not ready for: Noted. I'll cost the desk properly and the three of us get back on a call at the end of the week. I'd rather do the numbers live than in an email. Nothing is agreed on the call; anything agreed later goes in the decision log. Hold the 20% and move scope or timing, never a cheaper price for the same work: scope the desk to what the share buys, or start the desk fee at the first signed sourced client, or Andy carries third-party costs with the share unchanged. Do not offer "we'll do it out of the 20%" as a standalone option.
- Three quick decisions with Andy: connection notes on or off (he has Sales Navigator, the A/B is built and inert, C2 accepts at 20% against C1's 38%); Singapore scale, hold or stop (the 8 Aug rule was first reply or two weeks with none; withdraw rate is 54% of resolved invites against 25% in the UK); the Guinness fund-management idea from 24 Jul, which needs its own paper before anyone says yes.
- Own the two disclosures. Cap at 200 from the start, averaging about 180, and C3 live from day one. Say them before he finds them.
- Close on who does what by when. His Singapore dates; the terminal-seat anchor for Singapore (the UK pounds line went out to a Singapore prospect again at 07:58 UTC this morning; if he wants a Singapore-dollar figure, the number has to come from him, we do not convert it); hedge funds in or out; and the Aviva answer.
Numbers you may use, and nothing else
The brief locks the set: 15 seconds a chart, 20 to 30 minutes by hand, 4,000 bonds validated, 10,000 bonds a day, the terminal-seat line, seven hours a week. Client references stay "an established fixed-income asset manager" and "a global bond fund". Guinness and the Wealthy Nations Bond Fund are suppression entries, never proof.
Landmines
- No vendor names. Andy asked in July to "find out how you do all this". Discipline level, "our platform".
- Digica stays out while Andy is on. No Digica numbers, no seat-scope talk, no TotalTek.
- Do not quote Tuesday's transcript at Ben. Let him restate.
- The share is signed and survives termination. A loose sentence in a follow-up email can vary it. Keep any restructure verbal until you decide.
- Andy's red line is handover, not money. His words on 17 Jul: "there's got to be some sort of sensible cut off... I want this to come through." Frame the desk as making sure conversations get worked.
If Ben stays on after Andy drops (Digica only, five minutes)
- Søren's timing complaint from this morning: the watcher now polls round the clock, reads bursts as one reply, and stands down when Søren has already answered. Your reply to him is staged, unsent, Ben on Cc.
- Ben owes you his example message texts, the niche pick from the HubSpot prompt, Jim's surname and email, and the tests doc.
- Papering Digica for TotalTek is urgent (scope, cost, NDA) now that shape is twelve months, and you need Ben's written line on the US-border deployment claim already in sent copy.
- Seat scope: six seats run, Jim makes seven, one more makes eight. Your call whether to raise it.
After the call
- Decision log for the desk and Ben's stake. No pricing in any email to Andy or Ben.
- The Singapore reply gets answered today.
- File the three signed PDFs from Gmail; create RMB Exchange in Twenty.
- Notes on, or Singapore top-up, are gated writes through ecg-outbound-change.